In order to deduce if a M1 helmet and liner are of WWII origin, it is possess all original manufacturing techniques and parts dating from the.
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Even as a intrenching tool should it be needed the helmet was useful. The liner was a simple enough device to remove should any other task be required of the shell and just as easy to replace when finished. It was easily adjustable and could be made to fit comfortably. It is often we see old footage of US soldiers running for cover with the straps of their M1's left unfastened and dangling to the sides or indeed simply fastened above and to the rear of the helmet brim.
One hand balancing the helmet while the other holding a rifle. Although this was probably deemed to be foolish by some, it was in most cases more than likely that the soldier was quite happy with the excellent fit of his liner and so felt that his M1 would remain in place for most of the time despite the straps. There was also the extra worry of having your head suddenly jerked to the rear in the event of a blast causing any number of injuries to the neck area should the straps be fastened around the chin.
Working in tandem with McCord Radiator and Manufacturing they drew upon their own experience of developing tropical helmets for the Army. The suspension system of this particular early liner was non-adjustable. Later WW2 produced non Hawley liners would have an adjustable suspension system. Also there was now a hole punched to the front which would hold rank insignia when the liner was worn outside of the steel pot.
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Posted February 7, The above symbols can be found in the crown area of the liner. Hawley liners had the words 'Liner Fiber M-1' marked inside.
Posted February 8, Below is a quick M1 dating reference I was able to find and my thanks go to Hardscrabblefarm for the use of. Posted May 25, I have been attempting to find info on the stamps on the M1 steel pots. I have a helmet stamped MWA 16 and was wondering what that denoted. The M1 went back into production - Posted May 26, Posted April 13, Will get around to putting a WW2 liner in it eventually. Helmet net is US or British.
Posted April 14, Thanks for showing it here. Posted June 2, If you have a minute to look this over, do any discrepancies jump out at you when comparing the description below to the two pics? I will be back to this one.
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Posted June 7, I can't tell from those pics whether the bales are fixed or not. One looks fixed - the other swivel. Posted June 8, Posted June 9, Can I ask if you are sure that '' is a Schlueter produced M1. Any S stamp you can see?
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Looks to be a much later M1 fixed with clip on straps. As you say, post war. Posted June 11, Couldn't find an "S" stamped anywhere near the number. That helmet came with a liner so its most likely post-war, too. Got it before I knew better. I like the crushed cork texture on it, though. Do you know if that, or sawdust, was used on helmets during WW2? Posted June 13, Cork would have been the 'norm' for helmets of the period.
I can only guess to the use of sawdust at some point? Sand textured smoother finish on later post war helmets along with new OD shade. Some say cork was added to deflect both glare and noise. Noise however - would have thought that a little too realistic under the circumstances. Thanks a lot for this excellent thread! Very ninteresting and useful! I will soon, when there's more time, some pics of my 4 M1 helmets for evaluation on authenticity. Keep uk the good work.
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Posted June 19, However was common for wartime shells to be used in Korea and even Vietnam, either with a cover or sprayed with sand textured OD3 paint over the cork. Posted June 21, Oli, you're likely right about no sawdust on the M1 helmet. I would agree with these dates Originally Posted by Charles A.
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Find More Posts by combatvet. So if I'm looking for a real good ww2 helmet I look for front seam and fixed bales correct? Originally Posted by streicher Most WW2 helmets were refitted with the "clip to bale" chin straps in Helmet production ended in and only resumed in with the start of the Korean War so any fixed or swivel bale helmet with a sewn chin strap is technically a WW 2 helmet The shade of OD paint changed in also, and many helmets were repainted several times durning thier long service as well as had their chin straps "updated to the metal clip style" or even later s clip on type.
Finding a WW 2 helmet liner with orginal paint, liner strap, and especially the original sweatband is actually the most difficult to find. Beware of replaced sewn chin straps on M1 helmets Originally Posted by randall Contact Us - Wehrmacht-Awards. Also, are you sure that the shell is ww2, and not from the Korean war like the other dude said? Because I was really hoping for a fully vintage ww2 helmet.
The makers mark looks kinda like this: I have never seen a Korean war photo with the metal clamp on type chin straps, even though they may have been used. In US M1 steel helmet forum. M1 helmet on Ebay. Bookmarks Bookmarks Digg del. Become our sponsor and display your banner here. Contact Us War relics Top. The time now is